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Moderator SoMany?s 1270 4414 Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:59 pm Wood Scraper CWW NOW PACKING A 38 PISTOL AT TOPIX What Is This Guy's Motive???Most people think of a cop wannabe as.... making stops on vehicles with there amber lights flashing...But this is much more than a cop wannabe....     104 565 Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:23 am Casual Observer A Shadowy Child Killer Claims Four Victims and Holds Detroit's Suburbs in a Grip of Fear FEEDBACK-FEEDBACK-FEEDBACK-What happened to these kids is unforgivable (and don't give me any of that born-again shit--you get one slate, just like the rest of us--when you're actually born. Your job is to not fuck it up like this; a job 99.999999 percent of humanity easily does without making excuses). Furthermore, these kids deserved more than what happened in the wake of their murders. They deserved much better. If that isn't obvious, I don't know what is.     18 570 Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:52 pm motorcity68 Let's Give A Hand To Teflon Man- Never Mind That He Killed Four Children!!{Occk} When Cops try to catch him-they always score a zero!....Fresh evidence or a sudden recollection of a witness may be the last hope for investigators who have run into a cold stone wall on all of these cases...Someone has the missing pieces to this puzzle...and it is time for you to come forward...Asap!     16 213 Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:29 am Casual Observer Some are posting and making this case much more complicated than it really is. Occk There seems to be a lot of speculation where people are putting 2+2 together and getting 3. Coming up with street names for the next victim, etc is just not plausible.....     39 205 Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:45 am Helen Dagner Tim King Investigation Cries Out To Be Solved-Public Help Needed! (Timothy King's Father:) I do remember telling Tim if anybody approached him to drop everything he had and run and scream. . . . *It was good advice. But Timmy probably didn't get the chance to run. And the clock was ticking. The killer's first three victims were snatched off the street and held for several days. Then they were murdered.     101 368 Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:55 pm Helen Dagner In the case of Michigan's "Oakland County Babysitter"     33 390 Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:53 am Helen Dagner Welcome to the All Native American Tribes genealogy/history forum Over One Million Views~ Moderator beverly bourque 31 628 Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:11 pm beverly bourque From The Desk Of YOOPERNEWSMAN     72 91 Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:05 am YOOPERNEWSMAN Flour Power! -Welcome to the Wolf Den Moderator LoneWolfB 77 446 Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:15 am LoneWolfB WINTERS FEARS~THE OAKLAND COUNTY CHILD SLAYINGS ~INVESTIGATION IN SOUND "Winter's Fears"~1977....WXYZ presents~1 hour special on Occk....David Newman/ sound taken from original tape/Winner-Peabody Award-1977~     10 63 Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:15 pm Helen Dagner Occk-Alpena_Witness-Testimony     57 473 Mon Nov 17, 2008 7:07 am Helen Dagner SITE READERS FEEDBACK-OCCK & JOHN McKINNEY Over--351,440 +Views & 2,543+ Posts!.....     14 2595 Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:40 pm mike0618 CASE FILE JOHN McKINNEY~OAKLAND COUNTY ANOTHER UNSOLVED!     46 468 Fri Nov 14, 2008 1:12 am Helen Dagner Authorities In Aruba Have New Evidence -Natalee Holloway     108 1333 Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:10 pm Helen Dagner CHAPTER 1-OCCK COURSE 101     49 313 Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:39 am Helen Dagner Unsolved Murder Of Jane Louise Allen-Revisited     427 2414 Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:30 am Helen Dagner And what it says to me is that Danto DID know John.     63 265 Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:25 pm Helen Dagner TV's Best Video Clips - Updated Daily     48 159 Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:24 am Helen Dagner The 30 greatest conspiracy theories - part 1 From the assassination of John F Kennedy to the death of Diana, Princess of Wales. From Roswell, New Mexico, to Nasa's moon landings. From the bloodline of Christ to the death of Elvis Presley. Every major event of the last 2,000 years has prompted a conspiracy theory and here we examine those with the biggest followings and the most longevity.     261 902 Wed Nov 19, 2008 1:10 pm Helen Dagner Scholar Finds Mayans' Path Through Hell     171 423 Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:31 pm Helen Dagner Caylee Is Dead, Spokesman Says The missing daughter of Casey Anthony is dead, A spokesman for her defense team said on national TV.     96 620 Thu Nov 13, 2008 12:23 pm Helen Dagner Serial killer victim's family finally has answer "Over the years, the sisters tried repeatedly to contact the medical examiner's office about their suspicions, but they say they could never get past the front desk." Do you see how these agencies hold all the cards?? They are the gatekeepers of what gets in and what gets out.     42 175 Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:51 pm Sam Updated-OCCK ARCHIVES     10 85 Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:14 pm too close to home ~OCCK-ARCHIVES- OA OCCK KILLING FIELD~     31 299 Mon Sep 15, 2008 9:57 pm Sam ~OCCK-ARCHIVES-OB JOHN AND THE SECOND PASSPORT BUSINESS~     82 518 Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:06 am Helen Dagner ~OCCK-ARCHIVES-AA The grant application boiled down a bit: 1. Autopsy reports indicate killer probably has ritualistic personality characteristics. [So how much has been held back from the public?] 2. Crimes probably sexually motivated. [What isn't in terms of this type of fucked up crime, regardless of whether sexual acts were or were not committed upon the victim? Especially if it involves a powerless victim.] 3. All 4 crimes well planned. [Nice use of brain power.] 4. TREACHEROUS PREMEDITATION to abduct, abuse and murder HELPLESS young persons. [That says it all.] 5. Bodies are "returned for examination" and left where they would easily be found, which is more evidence of a HIGHLY RITUALISTIC, UNIQUELY MOTIVATED MURDERER OR MURDERERS. [Not my words, the words from the grant application submitted by law enforcement back in the day.] HIGHLY RITUALISTIC [what must be contained in those autopsy reports?!] UNIQUELY MOTIVATED [sicker than the sickest a normal person can fathom]     76 447 Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:18 pm Sam OCCK ARCHIVES~BB Because the murder cases were never solved, they were never closed. Relegated to a back shelf, perhaps, but never closed. Here's something to think about--a "closed" case is subject to Freedom of Information Act requests. A perpetually "open" case is not, as it is the subject of an ongoing police investigation. I wonder how many ways there are to keep these cases "open"?     18 83 Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:27 pm Sam OCCK ARCHIVES- CC Theodore Weesner on true crime, literary awards and Helen     57 456 Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:59 pm Helen Dagner ~OCCK-ARCHIVES-A POKING AROUND FOR SOMETHING WE DIDN'T WANT TO FIND~     73 139 Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:02 pm Helen Dagner ~OCCK-ARCHIVES-D I HAVE TO ASK~WHAT REALLY DID HAPPEN?-DET. ANGER     32 95 Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:26 pm Alpena_Witness Tony Hillerman, author-Navajo-Died Tony Hillerman, author of the acclaimed Navajo Tribal Police mystery novels and creator of two of the unlikeliest of literary heroes — Navajo police officers Joe Leaphorn and Jim Chee — died Sunday of pulmonary failure. He was 83.     211 481 Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:22 am Helen Dagner The New Natural Wonders of the World     102 170 Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:01 am Helen Dagner TED BUNDY'S LAST INTERVIEW!     160 328 Fri Oct 24, 2008 7:16 pm Helen Dagner Supernatural Belief Reflects Normal Brain Activity     147 370 Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:43 pm Helen Dagner   Health/Education/Welfare--Past & Present     51 390 Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:51 pm beverly bourque No kidding -- baking soda's great for playtime     9 21 Fri Sep 26, 2008 2:10 am Helen Dagner there's been no sign of Stacy Peterson, the 23-year-old Over the past year, searchers have taken to the woods, waterways and even the skies over Bolingbrook, Illinois. They're looked, and then they've looked again. Stacy Peterson disappeared on October 28, 2007, and police consider her husband the prime suspect. But there's been no sign of Stacy Peterson, the 23-year-old fourth wife of former Bolingbrook police sergeant Drew Peterson. Police have named Peterson a suspect in his wife's disappearance. He maintains he is innocent, and says she ran off with another man     1 71 Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:10 am Helen Dagner What Happens When We Die?     64 106 Tue Sep 30, 2008 1:23 pm Helen Dagner Home Remedies for High Cholesterol     15 40 Mon Oct 27, 2008 1:23 am Helen Dagner All times are GMT - 5 Hours Who is Online Our users have posted a total of 22192 articles We have 219 registered users The newest registered user is toplezovjw In total there is 1 user online :: 0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 1 Guest   [ Administrator ]   [ Moderator ] Most users ever online was 191 on Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:01 am Registered Users: None This data is based on users active over the past five minutes Log in Username:    Password:      Log me on automatically each visit     New posts    No new posts    Forum is locked Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group