HelenDagner.com Helen Dagner's Forum    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  The time now is Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:00 pm HelenDagner.com Forum Index View unanswered posts  Forum   Topics   Posts   Last Post  HAVE A SAFE-GREAT 4th of JULY!!!   Are Infra-Red Cameras Banned From The Public? Why? -SoMany?s creates short animation videos that have a unique blend of obscurity and humor involving the UFO phenomenon and satire toward the debunkers. His YouTube videos have been featured on Alien Casebook, The Debris Field, The Cosmic Lens, CoastToCoast, Paradigm Research Group, BackYardPhenomena, and other web sites. He has been trying to prove and convince himself and the researchers that he met Melvin Brown and his family in Michigan in 1971 and was told part of the Roswell story at that time. Moderator SoMany?s 1508 4815 Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:04 am SoMany?s 1976 Birmingham Seaholm Seniors-I Would Like To Talk With You     17 119 Thu Jul 02, 2009 7:51 am SoMany?s Prosecution In Occk case-Finally In The Works ? ..and it won't be the Oakland County Child Killer who is going to court...It will be the Oakland County Authorities and Law Enforcement...     33 318 Thu Jul 02, 2009 6:55 pm Sam I'm Not Ignoring You -Occk     130 798 Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:30 am Helen Dagner Artwork by Victim Tim King-Murdered By The Occk So much time has passed that these four kids are only associated with the horror of their abductions and murders. So many of the good things get blown out of the water when something like this happens. These are reminders of some of the good things, even though it is heartbreaking... In.6th grade The assignment must have been to draw things that you like/like to do. His drawing shows a guy skateboarding (note the red hockey jacket-- that is heartbreaking), a guy dressed in red, white & blue with a sparkler ( The King family were pretty into the 4th of July at their house), a baseball player, a hockey player, two kids in a roller coaster (front car, of course), a kid reading and two hands shaking (I think he was symbolizing his friends)......     17 2756 Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:19 am Helen Dagner Remember The four Children Murdered In Oakland County Michigan-1976-77-It Is Still Unsolved     50 703 Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:04 am Sam Even The US Post Office Wouldn't Cooperate-Occk-6-18-1978     83 524 Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:45 am Casual Observer OCCK-Think About It-This Could Have Been Your Child!     52 328 Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:03 pm Helen Dagner MORE SITE FEEDBACK- Helen, This discussion about a room upstairs...perhaps John was referring to the fact that he was in the basement most of the time but went upstairs (which would be the 1st floor) to watch TV, play games, etc.. Just a thought. Matt     104 588 Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:11 am Helen Dagner Photos -Occk -Journey     66 589 Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:09 pm Helen Dagner I think That Was Said In Feedback~     41 438 Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:41 pm Helen Dagner RAGES~RANTS & REVEALATIONS-FEEDBACK-OCCK-FEEDBACK It is 30+years since the child murders in Oakland County and they still have not rule out the possibility that they could be dealing with a sadist...now a sadist is someone who derives pleasure from the inflction of suffering on the child-There are a number of things in these cases which are not consistent with sadistic assult....the extent of time the victims were held captive...usually strikes-kidnaps the victims-completes the ritual assault and flees...he doesn't keep the victims from four days to 3 weeks/ the victims will usually be tortured-injured and even mutilated in some way....typically sexual areas of the body-breasts-buttocks-& genitals all become the targets of abuse...bites,cigarette burns,punctures...ect.....and nothing of this nature was evident in these cases....the children did not appear to be abused or neglected....In fact they were protected from the elements and well nourished....and the fact that they were apparently eating well would indicate they were not in extreme fear,distress or terror for their lives....now if we knew the answer to why the children were not battered or abused....we then would know who the killer was.....     22 1060 Wed Jul 01, 2009 1:08 am Helen Dagner ROGUE'S GALLERY-PHOTOS-Occk     87 393 Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:57 am Helen Dagner John McKinney-Occk News Archives of helendagner.com ~August 11,1977 Interview~ On Monday, September 20, 1977, John McKinney, 50 years old from Birmingham, Michigan was shot to death in his small office at his Birmingham Gallery, located at 1025 Haynes. The only way to enter John's office was by a rear door off the gallery parking lot, east of the building. Police theorize that John knew his murderer since there were no signs of forced entry; there were drinks found poured, but untouched; and because his gallery was closed that day. All that was taken from the gallery was a wrapped fiber wall hanging, all his other art was still at the gallery. Two hours before he was killed John was seen having dinner with an unknown woman at a Troy restaurant. Police are trying to locate this woman. Police feel there were two people involved in the murder. John's car was found parked next to the gallery. An Autopsy showed one gun shot wound to the temple and that John may have been pistol-whipped about the head. There was a considerable amount of blood at the scene. John lived in Clawson and he had a son and a daughter. John was also a Chaplain who spent Sundays visiting the elderly as a volunteer.     65 513 Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:50 pm Helen Dagner CASE FILE JOHN McKINNEY~OAKLAND COUNTY ANOTHER UNSOLVED!     46 501 Wed May 06, 2009 11:08 pm kyobserver WINTERS FEARS~THE OAKLAND COUNTY CHILD SLAYINGS ~INVESTIGATION IN SOUND "Winter's Fears"~1977....WXYZ presents~1 hour special on Occk....David Newman/ sound taken from original tape/Winner-Peabody Award-1977~     10 64 Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:09 am Helen Dagner ~OCCK-ARCHIVES-AA     76 451 Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:30 pm Helen Dagner OCCK ARCHIVES~BB     18 86 Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:30 pm Lferg OCCK ARCHIVES- CC Theodore Weesner on true crime, literary awards and Helen     57 456 Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:59 pm Helen Dagner ~OCCK-ARCHIVES-A POKING AROUND FOR SOMETHING WE DIDN'T WANT TO FIND~     73 139 Wed Oct 29, 2008 2:02 pm Helen Dagner ~OCCK-ARCHIVES-D I HAVE TO ASK~WHAT REALLY DID HAPPEN?-DET. ANGER     32 96 Sat May 09, 2009 11:15 pm kyobserver Welcome to the All Native American Tribes genealogy/history forum Over One Million Views~ Moderator beverly bourque 35 784 Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:12 pm beverly bourque From The Desk Of YOOPERNEWSMAN Rev. Dr. George Cairns Vid: The Cost & Joy of Disciplesh     98 119 Wed Jul 01, 2009 10:19 am YOOPERNEWSMAN Welcome to the Wolf Den Cannot Live on Bread Alone ? Depends on the Bread ! Moderator LoneWolfB 87 500 Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:51 am kelvinsteele Brain Surgeon Reveals How to Save Your Brain from Alzheimer’     442 2434 Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:55 pm Helen Dagner Giant Mystery Blob Discovered Near Dawn of Time     122 1347 Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:04 am Helen Dagner Police call man LA's 'largest ever' serial killer     61 174 Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:11 pm Helen Dagner Best Places to live in 2009     274 916 Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:50 pm too close to home This is a beautiful story. One would like to think it is true. This is a beautiful story. One would like to think it is true. Perfect for this time of year. Preparing for EASTER An interesting Crucifiction Story     185 441 Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:22 pm Helen Dagner BREAKING NEWS: Caylee Autopsy Results To Be Released .Authorities in Florida have released more than 1,000 pages of documents and photos in the Caylee Anthony case -- including disturbing images of skulls and skeletons found on her mother’s computer.     96 642 Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:23 pm Helen Dagner Miles and Miles of Murder     52 189 Sat May 02, 2009 11:12 am Casual Observer Congradulations-You May Already Be A Terrorist!     217 492 Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:28 pm Helen Dagner Photos Spark Fear of 'Borneo Monster'     109 180 Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:36 am 2manyhats This one is a bit tough, but so much of it hits home !!!     167 338 Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:50 am too close to home Bianca Roberts set to marry Snowtown serial killer     155 381 Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:54 pm Helen Dagner   Arizona News-Past and Present     52 273 Sat May 23, 2009 3:25 pm beverly bourque Two antennas met on a roof, fell in love and got married.     14 31 Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:56 pm Casual Observer NEVER ARGUE WITH A WOMAN!     5 78 Mon Jun 01, 2009 12:05 am 2manyhats Natural Cures and Home Antidotes It makes sense that alot of these would work. Though I'm a little skeptical of #32. Actually even if it did work - I'm pretty sure I would just tough out the fever. "(32) Fever. Put onions under arms or hang sliced potatoes around your neck (like a necklace) until fever subsides" Has anyone tried any of these?     66 114 Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:38 am 2manyhats 20 Most Fascinating Prehistoric Paintings     32 65 Fri Apr 17, 2009 4:13 pm LoneWolfB All times are GMT - 5 Hours Who is Online Our users have posted a total of 25233 articles We have 239 registered users The newest registered user is kelvinsteele In total there are 4 users online :: 0 Registered, 0 Hidden and 4 Guests   [ Administrator ]   [ Moderator ] Most users ever online was 191 on Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:01 am Registered Users: None This data is based on users active over the past five minutes Log in Username:    Password:      Log me on automatically each visit     New posts    No new posts    Forum is locked Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group